Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

I'm a complete noob when it comes to assault rifles - learning, but still clueless. Can some kind GIM soul tell me if this is a good deal for $699? Seems reasonable to me and is the far less than the Smith and Wesson M&P15 I was looking at at Sportsman's Warehouse for $999. This would be for the range, plinking and obviously TSHTF scenario.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta.../olympica1.jpg

Also, this is chambered 5.56 and as I understand it will shoot .223 Remington too without issue, but one should not shoot 5.56 through a .223 chambered weapon? Thanks.

Here's the link on the specs and price:
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta...roduct347.aspx

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

I don't own any AR15s so I am speaking based on what I have read and heard.

Olympic AR15s are the brand most people say to pass up. However for a little plinking and a SHTF weapon an Olympic would probably fill the need. I would imagine unless you are shooting on a regular basis you would be wasting money to buy a highly accurate longer range rifle. A great rifle doesn't make an inexperienced shooter a great shot.

The S&W M&P 15 is one of the better ones on the market but not the best.

Somewhere on the web is a chart of different brand AR15s and all of their specs.

Comparison of different brands
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...jFwPrgTA&hl=en

Another chart
http://ingunowners.com/forums/long_g...n_ar_15_a.html

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

Olys are lower tier ARs. They do make good barrels (darkened stainless), but are not chrome lined...

Biggest concern for me would be the bolt/carrier group, which is probably okay and can always be ungraded to higher quality.

I doubt you would have much trouble with the Oly, but if I only owned one AR, I would rather spend the money for something a little higher quality like Bushmaster, Rock River, Colt, Stag Arms, etc.

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

great rifle for the price - hard to beat. If you want to upgrade it later - you can simply buy a new upper. good deal -get it.

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Olys...SUM (stainless ultra match) broach cut barrels are in my opinion some of the most acurate off shelf in the business..

that being said Oly also has some lower standard stuff that is as previously posted lower tier stuff

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Olympic Arms are total pieces of $hit. If you buy one, buy a case of ammo to go with it, and you will EASILY have a lifetime supply.

For the same price you can get a no name parts kit from M&A parts. While I dont think much of parts guns, they are a million times better than the crap that Olympic Arms builds.

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You get what you pay for. I love and am proud of my Stag 2T. It set me back close to $1,100, but is well worth it. Sure, you can save some cash now by going with the cheaper OLY, but is just not worth it in the long run. But, again, if you're strapped for cash and want one now (and they are available), go for it. Like Rebel said, you can always upgrade later.

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I own two Olympic Arms ARs and have found nothing to complain about. Most of the people that bash them online are people that have no experience with them. I can personally attest to the fact that my PCR-4 and CAR-97 models have performed flawlessly for me and are not ammo picky. Unlike many Bushmaster rifles I have seen, my OlyArms do not even get steel casings stuck in their chambers. As far as the barrels go, why would anyone need to chrome plate a stainless steel ultramatch barrel?

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Not necessarily. It's possible to overpay for something.

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

How many rounds have you shot from each?

Also, maybe you did get lucky and managed to get a good rifle, unfortunately, there are MANY people who bash Olympic arms because they got a piece of junk rifle, and the customer service at Olympic is about on the level of what you get at places like the post office, the DMV, or a VA hospital.

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I have looked at them...and imaging they are fine rifles. I do not have first hand experience with them. I own an Armalite. I figure all these AR's are about the same.....and if you are buying new why not just pay a little bit more and get a very well respected name and take no chances....

I like Colt and Armalite for the big name outfits and I know there are lots others that folks here like....there does not seem to be a lot of spread in the prices....

BTW: a lot of folks will say get the removable carry handle...not a bad idea...but do not get too hung up on this idea. You will probably only use it with open sights anyway....battle rifles are meant to have open sights.....and you can easily add optics to the fixed handle model......and the handle mount is perfect height to add a scope rail on top of the handle....it has to be up very high to clear the front sight.....so either mount on the handle or use tall mounts....

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Right now there is a HUGE difference in price between colts and olympic.

Colt 6920's are going for $1600-$1800 on gunbroker right now.

Not to mention, anyone know why steel core surplus ammo in 7.62x39 is not imported into this country? Because the retard who owns Olympic Arms decided screwed it up for everyone.

That right there is a reason not to buy a gun from him (as if there werent enough already)

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Like someone else said, I would probably upgrade to a LMT or BCG M16 Bolt Carrier Group.

That would give me some piece of mind. Other than that I might stake the lower receiver plate (a do it yourself job).

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I ordered that same gun from Atlantic Firearms.

I have no problems with it. If it was a crappy gun, why would they offer a lifetime warranty?

You can shoot 5.56 and .223 if the gun is chambered 5.56. If the gun is chambered .223, you can only shoot .223.

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I am amazed at the negative comments about Olys....i think everyone that posts negatives I for one would like to know what personal experience they have had and what the issues were. Oly has recieved a lot of online bashing in my opinion it was because other companys couldnt compete with the price value structure so the only way was to bash bash bash

MY personal experience

I own a Olympic arms PCR-3 ..its a SUM barreled 16" gun...i bought it used...i have shot at least 5k rounds though it...its chambered for .223....it shoots sub 1 moa with just about any ammo ...and shoots sub 1/2 moa with match grade ammo....i have never had a gun related FTF or FTL...no jambs..no excessive wear...no issues ever not even one...it is one Heck of a tack driving son of a gun for a 16" barreled gun i have not shot anything that compares (btw the trigger is fantastic on this one too being used i dont know if it has had trigger work before i got it or not)

I also own a DPMS AR i bought new and paid at least twice the price.....if you compare the reciever and upper fit finish and general quality...quite frankly the Oly is superior or same in all reguards.

I have heard you definitely want to make sure the Oly has a Forged reciever instead of a cast reciever

my Oly is at least 6-7 years old and one of the better quality models with the SUM223 barrel i of course do not have personal experience with any later or other models..

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

My experience was years ago with a carbine upper. Stainless (blackened) barrel, no markings as to twist rate, but accurate, and no issues. Some of the lowers Olympic made back then were cast, not forged (my preference) and some models seemed to have loose upper/lower receiver fit. Not what we considered top tier at the time. But then, Colt was the one to get and Bushmasters were even viewed as sub-Colt-standard...go figure. We did not have the choices back then. From what I have gathered through from other forums, people are generally okay with the newest versions.

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Oly's got bad press when they went for the cheap market back when with cast receivers.
> insert blah blah expert BS here<
....and fully recognize that the vast majority of firearm owners are about the bling factor. That is why you get soooooooooo much name/ model mention.
"OOOOHHHHH I've got an Umptysquatch 5000....you don't?"
* eyebrows raised in condescention*
The better gun-presuming a base level of quality- is only as worthwhile as the shooter makes it.
Go get your Oly.
Geez, mil spec is mil spec.........except for barrels.........and you don't need chrome unless you're a loser at maintenance or heading to Mr. Jungle. Furthermore (you had to get me started) It's my recollection that chrome lined barrels have been blamed for a relative lack of accuracy due to variances in the deposit thickness in the barrel. How true? Dunno.
Whatever you buy as an AR, be sure to get a comprehensive parts kit for it. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

Yawn...beat to death already on other threads.

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

True, stainless and chrome moly match barrels are not chrome-lined to maximize potential accuracy.

However, chrome-lined barrels are not inaccurate. In any lined AR I have owned (currently eight), .75 to 1.0 MOA is common and 1/2 MOA quite achieveable with the right ammunition.

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Here are what a lot of people have to say about Olympic Arms

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LOL...thanks for those vivid testimonials, Igor...:emotions16:

I would think twice about recommending one after reading those comments.

Here are some other opinions from The High Road forum: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=431220

Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal?
 

Originally Posted By M4:
I used to live in Olympia WA...and after calling Oly Arms, drove out to check out their facility.

When I got there, a few things became rather clear.

1) Their "factory" looked like the set of Sanford & Son. (Absolutely NOT kidding)

2) Despite being told "Sure, come on down!" on the phone, when I got there, I was dealt with like I was Diane Feinstein by EVERYONE. One guy was pleasant and answered my questions...so not a total disaster, but the rest were pricks in general.

3) There was nothing and I mean NOTHING about their "facility" that looked suitable for manufacturing dog toys, let alone firearms.

If you never get a 2nd chance to make 1st impressions, Oly lost me COMPLETELY with that one


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